Another Hotel Proposed For East Fairhope

Fairhope, Alabama 

 

Possible hotel deign.

 

New 'Park City' PUD proposal.

 

FAIRHOPE AVENUE AT HWY 181

Architects for the new owners ('181 Fairhope Avenue Llc.') of property at the northwest corner of Fairhope Avenue and Hwy 181 presented conceptual designs to the planning commission for a new planned unit development for the property, to be called 'Park City Village' -- which includes a four story 148-room hotel.

Other components could include: 94 town homes, 62 cottages, 151 senior citizen housing, and over 102K square feet of commercial space -- including a "beer garden" restaurant/event area, and drug and convenience stores along Hwy 181. 

Almost 1,600 total parking places are provided, when fully completed.

This proposal would replace former owner 'Gayfer Village Partners Llc.'s'  (Haymes Snedeker, Ray Hix) so-called 'Klumpp PUD' -- approved by the commission/city council in 2019. 

Developer for the new project is '68 Ventures' of Daphne, architect Birmingham's Nequette; 'SE Civil' is the local civil engineer.

Project goals mentioned by the architects were: 1. Celebrate Fairhope's culture; 2. Provide a new community village center in line with the city's comprehensive plan; 3. Create a mercantile and culinary destination supported by hospitality and all forms of residential choices; 4. Design the community around a walkable pedestrian experience.  

The PUD project plans would have to be approved at some point by the planning commission (possibly during its May meeting) and then the city council in public meetings; certain exceptions to current zoning ordinances may be needed according to planning department sources, which is often done with such PUDs.


Park City developers.


 

Klumpp PUD, 2019

 

Comments

Anonymous said…
What is the status on the project planned for the Southwest portion of that intersection? (Between Idlewild and Walmart) Are these projects planned to be completed before 181 is widened?
Anonymous said…
Downtown business owners need to tighten up their team play. Allowing the hardware store to rot for years, chasing out wildly popular restaurants with absurd rent hikes, and closing shops during First Fridays are just symptoms of a growing complacency. Taking for granted that the old downtown will always be the center of Fairhope is a recipe for an unwelcome shift east. Such unthinkable shifts have happened for hundreds of old downtowns across America.

Fairhope is special, to be sure, but not invincible. Exert more pressure city officials to plan and govern with wisdom, but don't rely upon them to ensure your prosperity. To do so is the antithesis of the entrepreneurial spirit that enlivened your business the day that you crossed yourself and opened you doors.

We are approaching a crossroads. Today's decisions will echo for generations. Let that echo be the sweet and sentimental sound of tradition preserved by thoughtful strategy and muscular action.
Anonymous said…
68 ventures is the same company suing the city for denying its devlopments isn't it?
Publisher said…
Another development called 'Boardwalk Village' was approved for Hwy 181 south of Fairhope Avenue about one year ago. It is up to the owner/developer to decide when to start. There is currently no funding for additional widening of the highway, according to ALDOT.
Anonymous said…
This is the problem. Projects should not be approved unless infrastructure is in place. Poor planning. Traffic nightmare.
Anonymous said…
Unless the developer is throwing in a HUGE pot of gold for infrastructure; police, fire, water, sewer, I can’t be convinced. I’m not convinced a large hotel would survive in that location. But I do like the shift of everything eastward from downtown. The “iconic clock” could rust over and be covered with moss, mold, and lichens.
Anonymous said…
It does appear that the City puts up unnecessary roadblocks when it comes to developing downtown properties. I always hear that there is not enough parking. Well, when you have free parking spots there will never be enough parking because people will never park in the free garage. They will always park on the street. Make people pay for street parking and you will suddenly see poeple using the free garages. Plus, the City really does need to stop being so adversarial to potential developers who are trying to add amenaties to downtown Fairhope. Find a way to work with them.
Anonymous said…
Maybe preserving the historic old buildings dwntown will save it! Cannot be duplicated.
Anonymous said…
Parking meters are nothing more than a fleecing, and abuse of shoppers and diners who pay plenty in retail taxes. I go out of my way not to patronize downtowns with meters. Meters are blights--ugly, cluttering, inconvenient, and affronting.

If Fairhope installs meters, you will certainly see the flight of retail dollars from downtown.
Anonymous said…
Another PUD Dud is not a great thing for the city . We need the ducks back at the duck to drowned out all the Quacking
Anonymous said…
No need for parking meters just put back the 2 hour limit signs. All parking problems will be solved!
Anonymous said…
If you talk to most Fairhope citizens, they are anti commercial expansion. They do not want developers building every field or empty plot. A candidate could win the race on this topic alone.
Anonymous said…
Maybe when we have a dictator he will end private property rights but till then people can do what they want with their own land.
Anonymous said…
Parking meters of today aren't like they were in the past where you had one at every parking space and you put quarters in them. Today, there is usually one kiosk in a general location and you use your credit card to purchase a certain amount of time and then place the paper in your window for the parking meter officer to check. if you go over you get a ticket. It’s a very easy process and fairly inexpensive. Most people probably come into town and shop for a few hours and would have no problem doing this. The problem is when you have shop owners and others who park in a free space for 8 hours but refuse to park in the garage and walk a longer distance. Also, the only way for a downtown to survive and provide good tax revenue is to allow for expansion by adding new businesses. I believe that’s what a downtown is for and why people come into town to shop? But, maybe I’m wrong. If you stop new businesses from starting up in downtown then citizens will go somewhere else.
Anonymous said…
Hwy 181 and Fairhope ave are 1 lane each way. They do not have an active fire dept. Sewer and water have just caught up to the needs of present size. Majority of residents are not for mass multi family. I do not see any positive for Fairhope or its taxpayers on this project. Until the state decides to widen Hwy 181 this should be a no go.
Anonymous said…
Ths new project is not much different from the one already approved over a year ago.Same density, traffic etc ....
Anonymous said…
Eastern Shore per US Census 2022-2023 is 10th largest in growth for Nation. So even 2 yr difference matters. When you speak to traffic/ utilities. Because a plan was approved in past does not mean present should be. All new studies should be required.
Anonymous said…
Speaking of Downtown, why can’t they come up with a solution of a street or two back from the main streets, and build a 2 story golf cart only parking garage. More locals would drive carts and park and walk a block or 2 and this would create less local cars in our few parking spots Just a thought…
Anonymous said…
Most Americans are lazy. They do not want to walk 5 steps. The golf cart only parking would not be used.
Anonymous said…
This "local" developer 68 Ventures is destroying Baldwin County. He is trying to build multiple apartments in Fairhope and Sueing our fine city to do it. Our infrastructure especially our schools cannot handle this. If you care about your community fight this company tooth and nail. Remember this is the same guy who sold out to DR Horton for 100 million!
Anonymous said…
"Most Americans are lazy. They do not want to walk 5 steps. The golf cart only parking would not be used."

Oh yes it will, if cart parking is prohibited on the streets and we tow 'em.
Anonymous said…
No. It will not.
Anonymous said…
People in cars do not use the current parking garage, they just drive around and around looking for a spot to park. What makes you think a golf cart driver is going to use a garage? I do not understand the reasoning behind this idea.
Anonymous said…
"What makes you think a golf cart driver is going to use a garage? I do not understand the reasoning behind this idea."

The reasoning is quite simple. The recent proliferation of golf carts has increased demand on a finite number of parking spaces, exacerbating preexisting problem (at least for those unwilling to consider using the garage). Golf carts are easy to identify and segregate from the pool of potential parking vehicles. They are also smaller, and new golf cart parking can maximize the use of the new square footage by properly sizing the spaces. A golf cart taking half a car space takes the whole space, and wastes the rest of the precious real estate.

As previously stated, quite clearly, by another poster: prohibit, ticket, and tow. That is what makes a rational person think that "a golf cart driver is going to use a garage."

This is not an an anti-golf cart position, but rather geometry, logic, and policy-making coming together to mitigate a civic issue. Pleasing all of the people, all of the time, is not on the table. Sorry.
Anonymous said…
Golf carts make their own parking where it's not even a parking space. Look at the owner of the shop on Section & Magnolia. Parks in the striped lines, doesn't even have a tag on her cart.
Anonymous said…
"Golf carts make their own parking where it's not even a parking space. Look at the owner of the shop on Section & Magnolia. Parks in the striped lines, doesn't even have a tag on her cart."

Oh, my! I had no idea.

Sound reasoning clearly demands that we make no new parking laws, repeal all current laws, and paint over existing pavement markings--I mean if she's gonna just park her golf cart right there like that.
Anonymous said…
If Police actually enforced the rules of the road & traffic laws we would have a lot less problems, wrecks, deaths etc. - just do not get it.