School Committee Wants Better Co-operation Among Principals

Fairhope, Alabama

LACK OF COORDINATION A PROBLEM

Council member Brewer reported that several members of the city's Educational Advisory Committee have become frustrated due to lack of co-operation from two of the local school principals --concerning how city funds are used to supplement local schools; and the lack of participation by the local school board member.

One committee member, Henry Clark has resigned -- and at least one other was contemplating doing the same.

EAC BEING BYPASSED?

Brewer: "... a couple of principals feel ... they can come to city hall and ask for things they need without going to the EAC ... there doesn't seem to be a real good spirit of co-operation ... ."

Brewer cited the cities of Gulf Shores, Orange Beach and Daphne as examples of how school principals and others have been working together to come up with an overall plan for their cities.

Mayor Kant said that in the past some individual schools have come directly to the mayor/council to seek funding for items such as sports facilities, sidewalks, security measures, etc. (Elementary principal Terry Beasley was specifically mentioned.)

Kant had previously reported that the city also provides many in-kind services -- such as maintaining their athletic fields -- costing city taxpayers about $500,000/year. (Kant specifically mentioned elementary school principal Terry Beasley.)

Council member Burrell also mentioned the extensive in-kind contributions made by the city -- and questioned whether the Board of Education was adequately compensating Fairhope's schools.

Burrell: "We provide them a football stadium, baseball fields ... we maintain them . Does the BCBOE make that up to us? Are we getting everything that's due to us? I would have that conversation with Dr. Lee."

OVERALL PLAN NEEDED?

Brewer: "The bottom line is ... we spend a lot of money on our schools ... it needs to be more thoughtful ... more of an overall plan ... to get more bang for our buck ... I'd like all requests to go through this committee even if they're not education related ... ."

"If each principal feels they can come up here and ask for money for some pet project ... not keeping with the overall plan ... we're never going to achieve our goals ... ."

Council member Mueller agreed: "If we're going to have this committee, we should use it ... all of them (principals) should go through that control point  to us ... ."

RECREATION BOARD INVOLVED TOO
Planned Soccer Complex

Mayor Kant said that school recreation needs have traditionally been handled through the city's recreation committee.

Kant: "We need to talk to the Recreation Committee and EAC to see which things get sent where."

Council member Brewer reiterated the need for  better overall planning: "The right hand needs to know what the left is doing ... if one school goes to the Rec. Board and is getting $300K ... its all coming from the same pot."


The EAC is asking for $750,000 from the city for the 5 local schools next year, the same as last year. (Last year they ultimately received only half that amount)

Unless the policy is changed, that amount is on top of individual requests, such as the planned construction of the new soccer complex on the city's Manley Rd. property (pictured) --  just east of the high and intermediate schools. 

FURTHER COMMENTS

Brewer and Burrell clarified their comments later:

Brewer:

"The principals haven't been accustomed or required to work together in the past to develop programs of instruction or common goals that link K-12 in the Fairhope feeder pattern. Also, in the past, certain principals have, for whatever reason, been able to pick up the phone and call city hall whenever they felt they needed something that the city could help with. What that leads to is inequities within our own feeder pattern, but even more importantly, it keeps us from having a cohesive and well-thought out plan for our schools.

Most of the principals in our feeder pattern "get" what we're trying to accomplish here, and are excited about the possibilities. However, we need to have 100% of the principals, as well as support from our own BCBE representative, on board if the city is going to continue to support our schools at the level in which we supported them this fiscal year. There must be accountability, which means there must be cooperation from the beginning.

I'm not yet certain that athletic subsidies should pass through the EAC, but there certainly needs to be better communication between the principals/BOE/city regarding any and all City of Fairhope taxpayer funds being allocated to Baldwin County schools.

This only makes good sense so that we can ensure that the funds we are expending are in keeping with the BCBOE's plans for the Fairhope schools, that the Fairhope schools are working in concert with one another to collectively ensure the best possible educational outcomes, and that the distribution of funds is fair and equitable and serves the greater good."

Burrell:

"I don’t see the EAC as having a controversy.  I also don’t perceive there is competition between sports and academics.  What I see happening is that when the schools need money for sports in the form of in-kind donations from the city, i.e. football field, baseball field, etc. the principal has traditionally simply called the mayor and/or the recreation department.  This is not uncommon in Baldwin County.  Recently, with the creation of the EAC, the EAC has studied the needs from an academic standpoint.  From my perspective, the principals have been involved, but it’s not as simple as picking up the phone and requesting an in-kind donation.  I think what we are seeing is not a controversy, nor is it a competition for funds.  We are seeing some growing pains as a result of the EAC’s involvement in the process.  This may continue for some time as the EAC continues to put together its plan for the betterment of all Fairhope schools.  This may also shed light on the need for a balance between academic and recreational needs."




Comments

Anonymous said…
Thank goodness someone is finally questioning the BCBE and all the money the city is throwing at the schools. Upkeep, maintenance, plus the cash infusion - and they repeatedly pull programs, shut our schools, and violate our city ordinances without care.
Dr. Lee should definitely be questioned.
Anonymous said…
$500,000 a year for athletic facilities and now another $750,000 a year to cover insufficient funding for programs. Wake up Fairhope residents! The city has been funding a de-facto city school system for a generation, and getting NOTHING for their money. The county continues to send our money to other parts of the county because they know we'll kick in and pick up the slack.

With only the addition of Walmart's sales tax, there is MORE than enough money to completely break away from the county system.

CITY SCHOOLS NOW.
Anonymous said…
Burrell's right. The more we give them the more General Lee takes away somewhere else.
Anonymous said…
Imagine if we spent that $500,000 on education, instead of maintaining a field for "athletes" that will probably not contribute towards society in the athletic realm. They may, however, become second rate doctors, mechanics, engineers, janitors, etc. Why don't we set our students up to be the best contributing citizens they can be? Why don't we use that money to build more classrooms, hire more teachers and decrease the student to teacher ratio?
Anonymous said…
I agree academics should come first but athletics are important too. As a mom who has children in the Fairhope Schools I feel strongly for our athletic program and I am not talking just about the football program. There are other areas of including swimming, cross country, track and field, soccer, golf, basketball, volleyball, band, color guard, cheerleading, etc. (If I left out a sport or activity please forgive me.) The athletic programs at our schools need funding. I know some of the sports I just listed do not receive as much funding as others and the coaches coach for almost nothing. They provide hours in and are mentors to our children. The kids who are involved in the athletic programs are dedicated and hard workers. How many children do you know that get up on their summer vacations at 5am to be at practice by 6am (six days a week) Now that is called dedication! And during school they are require to practice and keep their school work up because without a certain gpa they can not participate. Since my children have been active in sports at our local schools I have witness more responsibility, better grades, more pride in their school work and their community, and self confident in themselves. There is more to playing a sport than just showing up. You have to be dedicated and disciplined. In my opinion this leads to our future and does attribute to society. These kids not only keep their school work up but they practice nonstop and go for the win. I agree academics is important but athletics plays a part in attributing to society. With the athletics it teaches the children not only to balance several things along with their academics but they are also giving back to the community. It teaches them self-discipline and how to manage their time wisely. Take a break and go watch the Fairhope Cross Country team practice on our local streets, etc at 6am and you will be amazed. Go watch the Fairhope Swim Team practice and you will wonder how they are even able to do those laps over and over. Go watch the football team practice for hours in the morning in the heat. Go watch your local band during band camp and realize what dedication these kids and their parents have. Go watch the cheerleaders practice and see how many hours a day they put in. Go watch all of the sports! And ask those kids why they do it? Ask them what their grades are? Ask them what their plans are for the future? I guarantee you will be amazed at their answers. Those kids participate in the sports because they love it and they want to represent their school with pride. As for their grades, they have high grades and they earned them. They did not get the grade because they are an athlete. They worked hard by studying and doing their best. When you asked them what they plan to do after high school most of them will tell you they have plans for higher education and will be a positive influence on society. Look at how many scholarships that were given just this year for sports and academics. Many of those names repeat on both scholarships...athletic and academic. Take a minute before you judge our athletes and say they will not contribute to society and find out what a true athlete from Fairhope is all about. You will be amazed!
Anonymous said…
Dear Fairhope Sports Mom,

No one was saying athletics were unimportant, only that $500,000 plus more $$$ is extravagant when the rest of your school system is in jeopardy.

And by the way, the band, which is the largest group of kids in the school, only gets a fraction of their funding from outside sources. Each band member is responsible for personally raising $400 for basic fees and then any extras on top of that for travel. I also think some of the other sports teams fund most of their budget. Let's see football do that, and maybe then, we can use that half million dollars for academics.
Anonymous said…
I would say to anonymous ....but ... It has very little to do with the amount of money spent on education. It has to do with WHAT is being taught and with how much passion and commitment it's being communicated with.
Robert said…
The now-extinct budget and finacial advisory committees used to try and sort out the hundreds of requests for free money from city taxpayers.
Anonymous said…
Oh puh leeze. Can no one see through this ruse?

The EAC was formed to appease the Good2Great crowd.

This group of "experts" decided that the city needed to add 10 highly compensated teachers to the Fairhope school system. Of course, this was a plan deemed to fail since these experts didn't consider the issues that could arise with tenure or what would happen if the city could no longer support a $750,000 per year gift to the BCBOE indefinitely.

More importantly, they forgot that it is the county that is ultimately charged with educating our children - not the city of Fairhope or Diana Brewer.

So the EAC did what they should have done from the very beginning which was to ask the principals what they needed and how the city could help.

Now, the EAC has decided they don't like what the principals have asked for so they are going to bash the principals.

It seems to me that this group led by Ms. Brewer (who herself has an agenda to split the Fairhope schools off from the county) needs to be disbanded.

These principals know that Ms. Brewer and her minions would throw all of them under the bus to implement their dream of a separate school system for Fairhope.

There is already a group in place with a proven track record of success and who have an ongoing dialogue with the Fairhope school principals. Does the name FEEF ring any bells?

Disband the EAC and let FEEF take over this project. It will be handled efficiently and professionally - no hidden agenda required.

This will also take away Ms. Brewer's microphone which she uses at every opportunity to criticize Dr. Lee and the BCBOE which at last glance seemed to be managing things pretty well.
Anonymous said…
I trust locals like Diana with our money a damn sight more than the politicians in Bay Minette -- who just keep mis-managing and raising our taxes.
Anonymous said…
One correction to that last comment. The school system didn't implement that 1% sales tax on its own...it was the gullible people in this county who fell for their propaganda.

For the record, I am not in favor of this publicly funded, private school that these people want. If you don't like government schools, sacrifice like many of us do and send your child to private school or home school. Don't ask the people of Fairhope to double their property taxes for you.
Anonymous said…
"I trust locals like Diana with our money a damn sight more than the politicians in Bay Minette -- who just keep mis-managing and raising our taxes."

You should be much more careful where you put your trust. Dig around or better yet ask Ms. Brewer for specific answers to pointed questions. See where that goes.
Anonymous said…
What is the difference between the county pushing a 1% tax and city passing a 2% ("for rainy day fund and paying down debt")and then giving it to schools-you cant trust any of them.
Anonymous said…
You guys are a joke. Kant and the Council President are buds! Wake up old people!!!!!!!What about my dental insurance?