Trails Proposal For Triangle Property Revived

Fairhope, Alabama


Veteran's Drive through city's "Triangle" property

FOR BIKING AND WALKING

Councilman Robert Brown said he had been meeting with a group of cycling enthusiasts for over a year who have an interest in using parts of the city-owned Dyas Triangle property for bicycling trails.

The group discussed having the city construct the trails itself ("bush hogging") but decided it would be better to have it done professionally ... to insure proper design and environmental friendliness.

Brown emphasized trees would be preserved and the property kept in a "natural" state ... and proposed appropriating funds for a feasibility concept study by IMBA Trail Solutions (click) that would cost just under $10K.


City's Triangle Property


In a handout provided, the company describes itself as "the international leader in developing natural surface trails ... excelling at planning, design and construction of natural surface trail facilities and bike parks that provide high-quality experiences for visitors of all ages and ability levels."

Katy Bolton, a member of the group who is also on the city's Bike and Pedestrian Committee, said a similar proposal was made in 2015 and she went with city staff to Montgomery for a recreation trails grant workshop ... but they were unable to move forward with it then for various reasons.

The new trails would connect to the existing Eastern Shore Trail that runs though the area; besides recreation for Fairhope citizens, Bolton emphasized the potential economic benefit for city businesses ... by attracting more visitors and "tourism dollars."


USE OF PROPERTY DEBATED

Council work session discussion
Councilman Conyers wondered if it would be better to "figure out what we want to do with the triangle property first" before commissioning a bike trail study and councilman Burrell concurred.

Burrell: "Do we even want bike trails there .... or (mostly) trails for walkers and tables for picnickers? What about the ecological impact ... runoff into the creek?"

"Would walkers be worried about getting run over by bikes?"

Bolton said she envisioned trails being family-friendly with clearly marked lanes for bikes or pedestrians ... with perhaps an ADA disability compliant trail all around the perimeter.

Brown said hiring a professional design/construction company would insure proper design and erosion/runoff control.

Councilman Robinson said trails were minimally invasive and  could be easily converted back to something else if need be in the future; Councilman Boone supported Brown's plan.


DECISION TO COME

Council members generally liked the idea for bike trails and were asked by Burrell to consider putting appropriating the $10K for the feasibility study on an upcoming council agenda.

Mayor Wilson said proposed uses of the Triangle property should be included in the upcoming Comprehensive Growth Plan update (2020?)... and the bike trail project could be funded using impact fees, grants, as well as some kind of public-private partnership.


TUNNEL UNDER VETERAN'S DRIVE PROPOSED TOO

Councilman Brown said that whatever the property is eventually used for, connectivity between the north and south parcels on either side of Veteran's Drive needs to be established; he proposed a pedestrian tunnel under the road to be constructed simultaneously with the installation of the new roundabout at the Highway 104/Scenic 98  intersection.

Brown: "When the road is closed will be an ideal time ... to install a pedestrian tunnel."

Public Works director Johnson mentioned two possible designs: a corrugated metal pipe as the economy version to last 30 years or a concrete box construction for 100 years.

The council agreed and Johnson was directed to find a suitable location for the tunnel.

Construction of the roundabout could begin later this year.



Possible tunnel design










Comments

Anonymous said…
Can't the City (without hiring anyone else) put together a summary of this property's potential without the City spending $10,000? This is ridiculous......all Fairhope does is hire outside firms (friends of those who hire them?) to 'study' the problem and 'present' a solution. Fairhope never follows the solution. I seldom agree with Burrell, but I do about this......most of the trucks in Fairhope are driven by City employees. I think that they are probably better informed and qualified than calling in someone's buddy and paying $10,000 for nothing that will ever happen.
Anonymous said…
It is a great idea! Time to get going on something there.
Anonymous said…
There is what has become a world class and major tourist draw trail system through Gulf State Park, Gulf Shores and Orange Beach now up to 28 miles, the Hugh S. Branyon Backcountry Trail. It is used by walkers, runners and bicyclists with a 10mph limit and no pack ridings. It has numerous benches and scenic overlooks. There are approx. a dozen trailheads at various locations for parking and access. Fairhope don’t try to be special and mess this up. Google and you’ll find maps and pictures.
Anonymous said…
Someone needs to check Burrell into the hospital. He is concerned about run off? I don't think he is feeling well.
Anonymous said…
There are already crosswalks at that intersection. Why is a tunnel needed? Seems like a waste of money.
Anonymous said…
1. I didn't know a round about was going there. 2. Tunnels are good places for predators, both 2 footed and 4 footed ones. With the wildlife living in those wooded acres, I'd be kind of leery of it all.
Anonymous said…
Not only at the triangle but along the sides of the various gully systems in Fairhope there is so much opportunity for trails that are eco-friendly, scenic and would provide walking and biking connectivity around Fairhope. But no Fairhope did the Complete Streets program which has caused major traffic and parking problems while promoting themselves as a biking destination. No, they’ll just do a mile and declare themselves the Yellowstone of the South, thus is the Fairhope way.
Anonymous said…
the tunnel need to be out on Greeno Road.
Anonymous said…
As a former off-road bike rider - we were riding in the woods before they had trails! Well, let me tell you that trail riders these days rip up and destroy the best laid out trails(This is the sport). We push up tree roots and cause great erosion all over the side of hills and destroy paths.

We wear body armor and carry bike parts with us in the event of a crash. We run right over pedestrians on OUR BIKE TRAIL- So Stay Off! Nothing to mention about economics with this divergent group, as all we consume is Red Bull and Mountain Dew, no change left for food. Best to leave that Virgin Property just as it is - ALONE!
Anonymous said…
We spent $8 million for that property, something needs to be done with it or all that will go to waste.
Anonymous said…
Most money that the Fairhope Council allocates 'goes to waste'. Has anyone else noticed that city property taxes have risen almost 25% over the past 3 years, and our utilities have hit the nadir!
Anonymous said…
Such a shame to let this beautiful piece of property go to waste to satisfy the local eco-Nazis.
Anonymous said…
We are famous around here for doing expensive studies then putting them on the shelf to gather dust.