New Downtown Hotel Back Up For Approval

Fairhope, Alabama 

Update: This was tabled again, until the December meeting to allow more time to work out parking issues.

Preliminary design.


301 Fairhope Avenue

TABLED FROM PREVIOUS MEETING

On Monday, the city's Board of Adjustments and Appeals will consider giving the go-ahead for a three story hotel/mixed-use project at 301 Fairhope Avenue.

The old Peoples Cooperative/Fairhope Hardware Store building will have to be demolished (said to be beyond economical repair) to make way for the 27-room hotel on upper floors; a medical spa and restaurant will be included on the bottom floor as well.

The B-2 general business zoning does not allow hotel-use by right -- but does on appeal to the BOA (called a special exception).

Mack McKinney is the architect.

PARKING THE HOLD UP

The proposal was first-presented during the BOA's August meeting, but was tabled (put-off) by request of the owner Sildi, Llc to allow time to negotiate with planning staff means to provide adequate parking for the hotel rooms. 

City staff was asking one parking space per hotel room be provided (on or off site?). Solutions talked about then were leasing nearby private property for the added parking -- or even part of the city's adjacent parking structure; it is not clear yet if any progress was made since the last meeting. (Staff worried about setting a precedent for future similar projects in the area too.)

Staff's August objections: "... the intensity of the proposal, in the location proposed, is too much of a burden on the current infrastructure for the benefit of one property. We do not believe we could offer the same solution to other property should they request the same. In which case, we feel we must recommend denial as currently proposed.

Furthermore, some of the proposed solutions would require approvals from other authorities. For this reason alone, we feel it is not appropriate to recommend approval until the feasibility of those solutions are vetted.

Because there may be other authorities involved, Staff would not be opposed to tabling the request to allow the Applicant appropriate time to work through the other options appropriately, or alter the request."

Comments

Anonymous said…
I so hope that this is approved; it will be a huge asset to downtown and we desperately need a nice hotel here!
Anonymous said…
hate to see all the old buildings knocked down
Anonymous said…
Just do 2 hour limit onstreet parking andproblem solved!
Anonymous said…
If you allow this hotel with no parking, you are opening the door for other hotels and specific businesses to do the same. Be careful.
Anonymous said…
Just have parking be valet only and use the underutilized parking garage for it. Every hotel in New Orleans uses this model for off-site parking.
Anonymous said…
No more projects with out a doable parking plan
Anonymous said…
Looks great the building is falling apart and should be replaced. They already had a study saying the parking garage was being underused so I don't see any issues
Anonymous said…
Maybe they should leave the bottom level for parking only.
Anonymous said…
If you own an old building and want to tear it down and build something bigger and better then just neglect the old building and do no maintenance for awhile and when it starts to crumble then just tear it down and build something bigger and better and new. Don’t even worry about something called History. …. It is not about where you have been but where are you going. We are such a wasteful society!!!!
Anonymous said…
I believe parking under the proposed hotel would be an excellent idea. Of course, they may lose revenue but you cannot have it all ways from Sunday.
Regarding the history, it’s going to have to be memories. Most of the old history that exists is in a word, rotting. Have y’all seen the old peoples school over on the college campus? That building is rotten as well. No consideration to preservation was made when it was needed.

Anonymous said…
Make some downtown streets one way only and add more angle prrking spaces.
Anonymous said…
old peeps school?
Anonymous said…
Please no more building in Fairhope! Plus it won’t blend with the landscape we have downtown.
Anonymous said…
Look up armed with Hope. Young man , no arms. Change hurts. Not always good.
Al Gore said…
Plus, all this NIMBY hot air is leading to even more anthropogenic global warming. The whole town's probably under water already.
Anonymous said…
The rendering shows a restaurant at street level. I can't think of anything worse than having a parking garage on the corner of Fairhope Avenue. Surely the owners can work something out with the existing parking garage or perhaps the Christmas Club bar will sell out for parking.
Anonymous said…
The proposed architecture might be appropriate on 181 or maybe somewhere along Greeno, but definitely not in the heart of downtown Fairhope. Reminds me of a space ship. Follow the character of our very unique little town.
Anonymous said…
Please people, bigger is not always better.
Anonymous said…
So the “underutilized” parking garage was built and given to the city by the owner of the Hampton Inn downtown, being coerced by a previous administration in exchange for approval to build the hotel. Now many here are suggesting allowing a new hotel owner be allowed to use it free of charge as part of an agreement to allow them to build another new hotel. Yeah, that sounds about right.
Anonymous said…
A little grandiose for Fairhope, do you think?? Tone it down some…
Anonymous said…
No not free of charge. It would be leased from parking authority.
Anonymous said…
a least it is not another square box thing.
Anonymous said…
I know everyone has an opinion about what they think “is appropriate for Fairhope” in terms of design. However, the City needs to stick to approving a project based on whether it meets the guidelines or falls within a precedent already set. The Hampton Inn is a 79 room "big box” (literally) and the City worked out parking for them. The new wedding and event venue at the Old Windmill Market was approved and will obviously take up a lot of free parking spaces. The new office building going up next to the Hampton Inn on Magnolia looks “modern" and that was approved. There’s really no reason why the City can’t work with the developers to address the so called "parking issues." Just let them lease the parking lot where the Whiskey Club building is like they proposed and let's move on. The developers came up with a solution for parking so why is that an issue? I spend a lot of money downtown and just don’t walk around looking at the pretty flowers and lights. I’d like to see another restaurant option. Get it approved.
Anonymous said…
If you care about preservation for both residents and tourists, and we should, this hotel rendering does nothing for Fairhope. Fairhope is a unique, historic small Bay town and any development should be a reinforcer of the historical characteristics of Fairhope. No one wants a building you can find anywhere with these banal characteristics. Design matters in how we respond, interact and live. The hotel should reflect the history and commitment to the surrounding environment in all aspects of its planning, including in the building materials to be used. The hotel should have appropriate parking for employees, guest, vendors and loading that is in keeping with the beauty of Fairhope; parking does not have to look like parking and can also enhance the environment. This is an opportunity to set a new standard of building in Fairhope.
Anonymous said…
Here’s the problem with the post above from the person mandating that any new building in Fairhope should reflect “the historic characteristics of Fairhope.” You don’t own the property so stop mandating what someone does with their investment. You may have a thoughts about what you would like to see, and that is totally acceptable, but maybe others have different thoughts? I also have issue with the poster stating that “no one wants a building you can find anywhere with these “banal" (big word) characteristics.” Really? That’s a pretty bold statement and since you’re a mind reader and know what all 20K plus residents of Fairhope want maybe you should go on the road and make some money reading minds. In my opinion, that corner is a prime area and I would like to see something that benefits Fairhope. A restaurant is always good and a hotel generates tax revenue for the City, so that design seems appropriate to me. I would hate to see that space taken up with a 2 story, bland brick building that contains a dress shop and hair salon. However, unlike the poster above this is my opinion only and I don’t speak for the other 20K residents.
Anonymous said…
We’re not even talking about character that is lost when they tear down or modify the small cottages around Fairhope and put up these behemoth mansions. That also ruins character. As long as money and greed prevail, character (and history) are erased. There will be a time when folks will not want to live here.
Anonymous said…
I agree with the Poster that says get it approved. We desperately need a new hotel and this is the perfect location since we lost the opportunity to have the boutique hotel on the clock corner. To all of the self-appointed 'preservationists', please feel free to preserve your own property in any way you choose, but this is an opportunity for the City to eliminate an ugly abandoned corner building and have someone construct something we need and that will generate tax revenues. I don't believe that I'm the only resident that looks forward to this addition.
Anonymous said…
Last comment. It’s Gaston Plaza. Obviously you are a transplant. FAIRHOPIANS Think differently. Change is not always good. This will open up not a good vision. My opinion.
Anonymous said…
I grew up here and I like it. the old building is an eyesore.
Anonymous said…
Agree old building eyesore, need new but not Hotel with no parking.
People that grew up in ‘40,’50,’60,’70, even’80 possibly see it this way.
Anonymous said…
Yes build it. Strictly valet parking.teardown old school. Park them there.
Anonymous said…
I think there would be a bigger benefit to the City if there were 27 hotel rooms on the 2nd/3rd floor versus say maybe 4 private condominiums on the same floors. The 27 hotel rooms would at least generate tax revenue for the city and the occupants would spend money at downtown businesses. If the only issue is parking then I think the developer has sufficiently addressed this with the 29 spots they will lease behind the building. We need that extra tax revenue to help pay our City workers a good livable wage so they continue taking care of us. It sounds like a lot of people just don’t like the current design. If that’s so then maybe the developer can redesign it to look like some of the old buildings some people seem to like.
Anonymous said…
If some people don't care for the design of the new building, they are welcome to not look at it. Since when does everyone have to like a particular aesthetic for the Planning Commission to approve it? If it meets the required/stated standards, approve it and let's move on. Otherwise, we will have yet another massive lawsuit that we will (and should) lose.
Anonymous said…
Need more parking at Thomas Hospital!! Don’t understand why can’t have parking like downtown
Anonymous said…
No one uses the parking garage! Require them to park in the parking garage to keep them off the streets. Its more than is required for any other business downtown. I think its a fair solution, and the City gets a new nice building with a restaurant/roof top terrace/hotel rooms etc. The current building is an eye sore.